K0chana

This game can be brutal.

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You guys know what's REALLY fun? Sitting in a game for an hour and a half, and winning ZERO HANDS ALL F***ING GAME. And no, it's not like I'm just playing stupid moves or betting on stupid plays. No. What I'm saying is, I play a game for an hour and 30 minutes and EVERY SINGLE HAND I GET IS ABSOLUTE SHIT. NOTHING. ZILCH. NADA. This game is actually so unfair sometimes, it's unbelievable. I'll get the weekly bounties and play a game, come back and it tells me I won 0 hands during the game. I'm not a bad player. But this game is rigged, and a waste of time. 

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3 hours ago, K0chana said:

You guys know what's REALLY fun? Sitting in a game for an hour and a half, and winning ZERO HANDS ALL F***ING GAME. And no, it's not like I'm just playing stupid moves or betting on stupid plays. No. What I'm saying is, I play a game for an hour and 30 minutes and EVERY SINGLE HAND I GET IS ABSOLUTE SHIT. NOTHING. ZILCH. NADA. This game is actually so unfair sometimes, it's unbelievable. I'll get the weekly bounties and play a game, come back and it tells me I won 0 hands during the game. I'm not a bad player. But this game is rigged, and a waste of time. 

I feel your pain.  What I discovered was that the other players realized that I was trying  to not lose, and took advantage of me.  They'd over bet on the flop to chase me from the hand. 

Rather that sit there waiting for a killer hand, go aggressive!   The time to take chances and establish your style with the other players is while the blinds are small and the loses are minimal.  When a high card is on the turn, over bet!    Taking risk is preferred to sitting there in frustration for over 2 hours.

see you at the tables.

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I can't say for sure that the cards are randomized properly, but I think that experienced poker players all know that there are runs of bad cards that can last for a long time, and then runs of good cards too.  I've had games where I lost every hand, but usually it's because I folded a lot of hands that ended up being straights, flushes, and full houses.  I still don't consider it a bad choice to fold those hands because it's better to have a solid strategy than it is to play hoping you'll get lucky.

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Tell that to the unluckiest player on the planet, yep, me!

99% of my hands end up losing, no matter how I play.

Every pair I get is beaten by a better pair, every 2 pair by 3 of a kind, every 3 by a straight, every straight by a better one or flush, every flush by a better one, full house or 4 of a kind, every full house by a better one & so on & i'm not even joking.

That's assuming I actually get a hand. Nearly everything I throw away ends up winning & everything I play ends up losing because I don't even get a pair.

I can't get a break. 

If I land a full house, say 3 8's & 2 kings, my opponent has 3 kings & 2 8's when the other 2 of each are on the table. I'll have the 8, the other player has the king, the other 2 kings & 8's are shown.

This is nearly every time I play a hand.

Anything I throw away ends up as a better pair, straight, 3 of a kind, full house etc & usually beats the people who went all in at the start or when the first 3 cards are drawn.

It's so frustrating.

It usually takes me weeks to get a silver rank on any tournament, while I see other players on gold or higher within the first 4 hours of the reset.

I end up being first out whenever I take a risk & get nowhere playing cautiously.

The worst part of it is that it's usually the very last card that causes the loss as well, which infuriates me even more.

More often than not, it's the only card that will result in a loss too, say I need a jack to complete a straight, king high, but not a diamond, then that last card happens to be a jack of diamonds,  & I lose to the flush.

So I really do feel your pain.

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Here's one for you  -

I was playing conservatively and bombed out of a tournament that I sat in going up and down for an hour. First one out. Negative 30 points.

So I decided to play another and try to get some points back. The very first hand I'm big blind and I get Ace-9 of spades. Nice hand, but I just check with the big blind.

The flop comes and there's a 9, a J, and a 3. I've got middle pair and an Ace, but there's only one spade so my flush isn't looking good. I check to see what happens and everyone checks around.

The turn comes and it's a 9. Woohoo I have three of a kind. One guy bets 450 so I raise him to 2k, but he re-raises me to 4k.

I look carefully again at the board and a straight is not possible, nor a flush. I suppose he might have a full house but he'd have to have a 9 and there's only one more out there.... I'm thinking he has some kind of pocket pair and the only thing that beats me is if he has two jacks in his hand to make three jacks total.  Maybe he just has top pair. Or, he puts me on a jack and he has two queens or two kings or two aces. That would be just fine with me. I mean what are the chances he will make a set on the river anyway.

I decide to go all in. He calls me and I was right he has a pocket pair of 10's.  Personally I wouldn't have gone all in with 10's if a jack is on the board, but ok.. whatever.  It's his loss, I'm 99% sure I will win this with three 9's.

What comes up on the river?  A ten of course.  Trip 9's beaten by trip 10's. I'm busted out and just lost 60 points in two tournaments in a row.

So I really do feel your pain too.

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Is the worst poker game on PS4 that only feeds hours and hours of gambling with no direction to the player. improve the bonus system for more people to reach the 1 billion pot because the way it is does not encourage or spend real money. cheers for those who insist on accumulating chips.

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I'd be willing to bet (yes, really) that this game has been on auto-pilot since this past summer or somewhere around there. For all we know, the developers are sipping Mimosas on Tristan da Cunha with Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa. When was the last update released? When was the last time anything was said about an upcoming update? When was the last time the developers have said anything  here?

Unfortunately, quality poker is lacking within the console world; there is obviously something of a demand for it, but between this abandoned, sinking ship of a game that is overrun with blatant cheating and collusion and the flat, dull, and quite depressing environment of 'Pure Hold 'Em' where there are apparently more tumbleweeds than actual players, there are really no other options when it comes to real poker. And yes, I know that 'Four Kings Casino' has poker, but in my opinion... it eh, sucks on about sixty different levels and the poker is downright unplayable! 😞

It'd be nice if they just simply came right out and said, "hey, so sorry, due to a lack of funding/interest/whatever, we've decided to halt it all here and spend no further time with any more fixes or updates. Ah, but fear not, for you shall still be able to play and of course, buy chips from us! That is, until you stop buying them entirely and we are forced to pull the plug completely!".

The game was fun for what it was and can still be fun with the right group of people but it's definitely not a serious poker emulation endeavour and we unfortunately may be waiting a very long time for one of those to actually arrive!

 

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-LN-

  It's called evolution.   Back in the day, Pipeworks created a poker game called  WSOP full house pro which ran on the original XB, the shut it down to create something else.  Pipeworks is in business to create video games, PP is just one example, the bean-counters at Pipeworks direct their efforts to maximize profits..

As for support, I alerted Pipeworks of the Spam that had invaded this forum   They corrected it.  If you have a problem with PP, why don't you send management a PM?

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18 hours ago, Farmer John40 said:

-LN-

  It's called evolution.   Back in the day, Pipeworks created a poker game called  WSOP full house pro which ran on the original XB, the shut it down to create something else.  Pipeworks is in business to create video games, PP is just one example, the bean-counters at Pipeworks direct their efforts to maximize profits..

As for support, I alerted Pipeworks of the Spam that had invaded this forum   They corrected it.  If you have a problem with PP, why don't you send management a PM?

I do understand where you're coming from, but I disagree with one thing; this is most definitely not "evolution". If anything, it is devolution; evolution usually indicates a change moving forward, but this seems to have come to a full stop - nothing has been said for months and I'm afraid that does not instill any sort of hope within me. I unfortunately never got to play 'WSOP: Full House Pro' but it seems light-years ahead of 'Prominence' and that is what I am told by everyone who did play it - for instance, so many more customization options for both avatar and game, easier to find games, and even room enough for nine players!

I do also understand that the developers may have their hands tied and further progression is somewhat out of their control as that all comes from those who write their pay-cheques, but we do have to ask: what is the future of this game and why aren't the proposed road map updates being discussed? Especially considering that it is months after their initial ETA. As philosopher Huey Lewis once said, "if this is it, please let me know..."

I'm not trying to make it seem as though I hate the game; as I said, I had fun with it for what it was and it can still be fun with five other honest, like-minded players but I haven't any high hopes given the silence and the seemingly overall waning interest in the game as a whole. This game has so much potential, especially considering the previous title, so will we see any changes or shall we just wait around for another company to make a serious poker game?

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Interesting observations.  I feel you're judging Pipeworks unfairly.

perhaps you would answer a couple of questions..

Hoe much more would you expect PP to do for you for free, or how much would you be willing to pay for this video game in order for you to get as yet unspecified improvements?

 

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13 hours ago, Farmer John40 said:

Interesting observations.  I feel you're judging Pipeworks unfairly.

perhaps you would answer a couple of questions..

Hoe much more would you expect PP to do for you for free, or how much would you be willing to pay for this video game in order for you to get as yet unspecified improvements?

 

I could go deep into my feelings regarding the gaming industry's monetization practices, but honestly, I'd personally have rather it not have been a "free" game to download, especially if being "free" does not allow us to offer constructive feedback/criticism and the hope for potential changes and/or future additions. I mean, I can play some run-of-the-mill free poker on my mobile or win/lose real money online at PokerStars, but I'd gladly pay between say $30-50 for a realistic console poker game with a good assortment of options/customizations and the ability to have tournaments that consist of more than just six players at once.

I don't think my observations are unfair; this place has no doubt become something of a ghost town and as everyone can plainly see, nothing has been said about the future of the game and/or the road map updates for months now. That doesn't look so promising to me and respectfully speaking, I do think it's more than fair that we ask these questions and continue to ask similar ones in the future.

I honestly think it is a good discussion to have and I respect your observations as well, even though we do not seem to fully agree.  But hey, if we were all the same and all thought the same, the world would be a very boring place. Cheers and all the best!

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